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May 12, 2006

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Jody

An awful lot of quotes of Jesus in the Bible certainly appear to support what you appear to be calling a cult of personality (ill-defined as the charge is). Off the top of my head, the vine/branches passage (John 15:1-8)

1"I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me, and I will remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.

5 "I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not remain in me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be given you. 8 This is to my Father's glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples."

I would bold all the first person pronouns above for emphasis, but Jesus repeatedly emphasized his importance in the process.

And to put a further emphasis as to where Jesus saw himself, consider just the next chapter where He says

John 8:58 "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"

Going Old Testament for a moment, what was the name given to Moses by the God of the Burning Bush?

Exodus 3:14 "God said to Moses, "I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'" (that's also a fun pair of verses for your divinity claim to handle.)

Now while Jesus did repeatedly say that all glory that is His is really the Father's (as He is the Father's servant), He made no bones about being the "the way and the truth and the life." (John 14:6)

As to the most important teaching, Jesus chose a different one (Mark 12:28-31)

28 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?"

29 "The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.' 31 The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'There is no commandment greater than these."

A teaching echoed repeatedly throughout the New Testament, e.g., in John 15:17 "This is my command: Love each other."

vynette

You are quite right, Jody. It was a poor choice of words on my part to say the the "most important teaching of the New Testament is..."
What I should have said is that 'the most important lesson we can learn from the New Testament is..."

The remaining issues you raise in your comment will be addressed in forthcoming posts.

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